Friday, December 4, 2009

Kook Aid – The Battle – Part 3

This is a follow-up to my earlier post. See also: Part 2, Part 4.

Spencer’s next pots was a link to an article about Arnold Schwarzenegger. This time I was prepared for a first strike. =)

Spencer Hughes - Even Arnold is guzzling the Kook-Aid on climate change. He is a Kennedy through and through.

Arnold Schwarzenegger unveils dramatic climate change map which shows flooded San Francisco of the f The map, which demonstrates the devastating effects of global warming in just a century, shows how San Francisco Airport would be completely underwater if sea levels were to rise by 150cm (60in).

Matthew Orlando -

Spencer Hughes - Matthew, Matthew. The SCIENTISTS THEMSELVES ARE ADMITTING THEIR DISTORTIONS AND LIES!! They were CAUGHT in their lies!! Are you just not listening to the news?? Oh that's right. The networks are refusing to cover the story, so it's really not your fault that you are misinformed about Climategate!

Kay - It's snowing in Texas, cold in California....if the oceans rise that much maybe they will put in a desalinization plant, Lord knows they need the water and then maybe the farmers will get their fair share for the crops....Wait until they realize the earth is cooling and a mini ice age is coming.

Matthew Orlando - Spencer, Spencer. SOME scientists are admitting distortions of SOME data. That proves absolutely nothing but that those particular scientists were fraudulent about their particular data. That doesn't mean you can throw out everything else that has come before.

Spencer Hughes - For YOU, Matthew...They were right THEN and they are right NOW. THESE are the people worthy of an OSCAR, not that blowhard Gore.

The Great Global Warming Swindle......

Matthew Orlando - Unlike you denialists, i'm actually going to take the time and visit the link you posted. I'm not afraid to consider views that are different from mine.

Sarah - Look out, Matthew! The SKY is falling the SKY is falling!

Amy - OMG! That's exactly what my husband and I were talking about last nite! Well more like I was schooling him! lol He married a Kennedy...what do u expect?!

Spencer Hughes - Matthew, the only thing that is falling is the FRAUD. Honestly, if you watch only the alphabet networks, you AREN'T reading or hearing about the THOUSANDS of docs and e-mails revealing this FRAUD. Are you NOT watching FOX, Matthew??

Matthew Orlando - If you'd take the time and actually read my posts I made in the other "thread" for content rather than assuming I'm part of the liberal conspiracy, you might find out that I'm not of the sky is falling variety... Reality > ideology.

Sarah - Matthew. Now you are just being rude. Spencer is not a denialist because he feels strongly about something you don't agree with. Be nice or leave.

Matthew Orlando - I'm not offended by being called a kook-aid drinker, I'd hope my similar attitude isn't being considered offensive. I have no hard feelings save for frustration at having the things I say completely ignored.

Amy - That's very diplomaric of you Sarah-:)

Sarah - The difference is, Matthey, we are not on YOUR facebook page. If you want the things you say listened to, go somewhere that people are open to it. Most of the people here can see through the crap. We can't help it if you can't.

Matthew Orlando - Now who's being insulting?

Sarah - AGAIN...this is not your page. Go pick a fight somewhere else.

Matthew Orlando - You're not "seeing through the crap" you're summarily dismissing everything i say as already settled. I on the other hand am actually taking the time to think out responses and look at the materials (articles, videos, etc.) that have been presented to me.

Matthew Orlando - Trust me, I didn't come here to pick a fight. I came to give another side to the story. Any hostility you detect in my writing is entirely a reaction.

Sarah - Then go check out the video and THEN get back to us. I don't detect hostility. Just arrogance.

Matthew Orlando - I am, and I appreciate Spencer for posting the links. My frustration is that I've posted similar (opposing) information which has been consistently ignored. Obviously, you're free to do so, but it seems a tad disingenuous.

Sarah - Why disingenuous? I have educated myself VERY thoroughly on this topic and have been screaming from the rooftops that it was crap for years. It is nice to watch all of the HYPE unravel.

Christopher - just an idea. maybe Matthew should read Telling the Truth About Damned Lies and Statistics. By Joel Best, Chronicle of Higher Education, 5/4/2001, Vol. 47, Issue 34

Matthew Orlando - It's disingenuous (and I'm not speaking directly about you, but the general trend in this and other thread) because the link I specifically posted to this specific thread specifically addresses the claims made in the video with citations to research.

Like I've said multiple times, if you take the time to look at the actual evidence and you come to a different conclusion, that's fine with me. I just want your conclusions to be based on the maximum amount of information.

Is that arrogant of me?

I'll respond more directly to the video in spencers actual post of the video.

Sarah - keep saying how no one is listening to you. You are not listening to me. I HAVE seen the so-called actual evidence. I am VERY well versed in this topic and my opinion on this, as in everything else, is a very educated one. Why do you feel threatened by someone disagreeing with you?

Sarah - Specifically, I mean. Heh.

Matthew Orlando - I say no one is listening because no one has bothered to say they've even read the information I linked, let alone respond to any of the points specifically. Political rhetoric about fascist conspiracies and hypocritical morons like Al Gore does not a scientific discussion make.

Sarah - Matthew. I read it. Get over it.

Matthew Orlando - Thanks =) will do.

Elaine - doesn't arnie have enough to keep him busy already?????

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